#rubyonrails - Sun 4 Mar 2007 between 14:52 and 15:01

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someoneoutthereFreaky: it's not that easy
adh1003someoneoutthere: Oh, sure. It's almost impossible to use, since MSIE *still* doesn't do it. It may be losing market share, but it's still at ~85%.
bbraemI'll look into that
thanks for your help!
adh1003someoneoutthere: Does Safari have problems if it parses XHTML as tag soup HTML though?
someoneoutthereadh1003: you won't believe me, but IE handles javascript dom in xhtml better than safasri
adh1003: no no
adh1003: when I try to modify real xhtml with javascript dom, it doesn't create tags, instead of tags it puts text there
adh1003: this error was reported several times on webkit.org, but they still didn't fix it
actionadh1003 keeps telling himself "This'll be nice when it's done" and keeps trying to figure out the routing error... I need a bigger brain...
adh1003keeps telling himself "This'll be nice when it's done" and keeps trying to figure out the routing error... I need a bigger brain...
someoneoutthere: Erk. Sucks.
FreakyYou know XHTML-as-XHTML uses XML DOM and not HTML DOM? ;)
someoneoutthereadh1003: ya
actionFreaky thinks XHTML is a complete waste of time, I don't use it for new developments
Freakythinks XHTML is a complete waste of time, I don't use it for new developments
sheldonhusser: http://pastie.caboo.se/44628
someoneoutthereFreaky: this is what browser should handle, and safari doesn't handle it good
adh1003Freaky: I'm in broad agreement, but I do worry that this is just my ludditic fear of anything new (like REST in Rails, with all its extra hidden magic and _method hacks).
someoneoutthereadh1003: maybe there is a workaround to use createElementNS, instead of createElement, but I haven't triedit yet
Freakya browser in XML mode will not support HTML DOM, especially not hacks like innerHTML, nor should it
someoneoutthereFreaky: no I'm not talki about innerHTML
Freakybut mm, things like that should probably work ;)
someoneoutthereFreaky: try it :D
dasil003Anyone know if I can get Rails 1.1.6 api docs anywhere?
adh1003someoneoutthere: So document.createElement("div") doesn't create a DIV element, for XHTML in Safari? It creates "div" as a text node or something?
Freakystill, pointless, who wants to cope with dual-mode XHTML-as-XML and XHTML-as-HTML? do you like making work for yourself? ;)
ussersheldonh: thank!!! :)
someoneoutthereadh1003: it creates it, but with errors, and therefore it's bein shown as text, not tag
adh1003: you can try it
adh1003someoneoutthere: I'm not on a Mac. Yet. Under serious consideration presently.
someoneoutthereFreaky: you didn't get what we are talkjin about
adh1003: macs are great, dunno y they have that error
adh1003Because they're closed source so you're reliant on a single source vendor to fix your problems.
someoneoutthereadh1003: yes they are closed source, and do they work great
omegadanI'd like to have a pulldown menu which when an item is selected copies its value to a text box ... anyone have any hints?
adh1003Not wanting to go OT, but for me, Apple vs Microsoft is irrelevant, since both have acted evil (and good) in the past, and it's closed either way. But MacOS seems to work generally better anyway, and since Vista's a POS, once XP starts to fail it'll be MacOS. Unless Steinberg port Cubase to Linux, in which case the winner is Ubuntu :D
Freakysomeoneoutthere: I do, I went through all this crap about 5 years ago ;)
someoneoutthereomegadan: use javascript
Freakythere was no point then and there's even less point now ;)
adh1003omegadan: Yep. onchange attribute, probably. You can't do it without JS, so make sure the page still works OK (albeit maybe a bit more clunky) for users who have no JS in their browser, or have it disabled.
omegadanadh1003: someoneoutthere: thanks ... guess its time to look into JS :)

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