#rubyonrails - Sun 4 Mar 2007 between 10:55 and 11:04

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chapellol
wzzrdbut that is a bit beside the point
Kriyasurferchapel: if I'm tanked on some psychedelics, sure it is. But it isn't useful.
wzzrd: it IS the point. If you don't have the right concept in your head, you don't know how to write the program
wzzrdi just wanted to know whether a method exists to do variable.my_name returning 'variable'
chapelwith any problem, i try to figure out what is the particular usage that youre trying to do, sometimes you find that the problem isnt what youre trying to fix, but something else entirely
Kriyasurferwzzrd: Did you know, 90% of software engineering and CS graduates in America cannot program their way out of a paper bag? 'cause they lack basic programming skills.
chapelKriyasurfer: you read that article
199 out of 200 cant program
:P
Kriyasurferchapel: yep, and I agree with it. I've hired contractors who I didn't do that kind of screening and they produced crappy code.
chapelwell ive never had a tech job, hell i support developmentally disabled people in their homes, and i know that the majority of cs majors know shit about actual software development
its nothing more than a glorified learn to use windows course
Kriyasurferwzzrd: I don't even know what you're trying to do. I have no idea what you mean by "variable.my_name returning 'variable'"
chapelthats what i was getting at Kriyasurfer, it made no sense what he wanted to do
but instead of insulting him (:P I kid) I was just trying to figure out what he really needed to do
Kriyasurferchapel: I have developed this idea I want to implement. My girlfriend is in Industrial Design, and they learn by going to studio classes. I have had this idea in my head, that software engineering should be taught as studio classes, in labs, where you actually have to do some basic stuff. In her first year class, the students are not taught photoshop. They learn how to sketch. Very boring, for the entire semester, but w
hen they come out of it, they know how to design.
wzzrdnever mind
chapelwell its funny, cs majors are put in java classes and stuff
and expected to code
but sadly its mostly textbook based, and most if not all code could be pulled of the net
so people can get by without actually producing anything viable
Kriyasurferchapel: I admit to being a bit grumpy right now and that should not be taken out on people. Why, just earlier, there was a guy asking for how to detect a specific browser. I was able to find it on google within seconds, but he wasn't. (Bet he was using the wrong keywords). He gave up.
chapeli have a friend in sweden that is taking cs, well their cs
and they learn java
and what not
but they are pushed to learn alot more
do group projects, ie create working apps
things like that
Kriyasurferchapel: sure. Or they have the few people in class who knows what they are doing get bored and help the rest of the people. It's that look of "utter incomprehension". I actually helped this guy at a job once. Later, his *wife* working at another job kept calling me to help with *her* job.
chapellol
i helped people in school, even if i knew they didnt know anything
but i always tried to explain it to them while i was helping
Kriyasurferchapel: So did I. But I get tired of fishing for people and want to get them to learn how to fish on their own.
fitheachanybody here using Simplelog and can tell me how to add my own helpers? I don't want to overwrite the default ones.
chapeland about the google thing, google is easy to use, hard to master
peterretiefwolves: i commented out the config and rake runs
without errors
Kriyasurferchapel: Maybe so. It is worth practicing, no? The thing is, if you don't know how to vary the keywords, it does say a lot about how you conceptualize the problem. Meaning that the real problem is your concept of the problem.

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