| carterparks | _codepoet_: if the cell phone is out of service, sure it won't validate |
| _codepoet_ | yeah but if all circuits are busy? |
| carterparks | you are quickly overcomplicating all this |
| _codepoet_ | how will the program know the difference |
| carterparks | then you've got to try again to validate another time _codepoet_: it'll know you didn't press 1 |
| _codepoet_ | its a slippery slope of a requirements |
| carterparks | you're wrong its not the only requirement for validation is that the user pressed 1 if the call didn't go through or the user didn't press 1 then it isn't validated |
| _codepoet_ | thats the only user requirement but there is much more behind the scenes, technically some times it takes me 10 calls before I finally get through |
| Brutox | carterparks: thx... I am burned out |
| _codepoet_ | also if someone puts the wrong phone numberin there and you are calling someone ELSE 10 times, you are harassing them in the united states |
| carterparks | _codepoet_: then you have a 2nd option, press 2 if this is the wrong number |
| _codepoet_ | yeah :) its still a bad idea imo .. no good can come of cell phone validation :) |
| carterparks | you shouldn't think of it as cell phone validation |
| stillflame | so is there an accepted practice for setting up a temporary container object to perform validation checks on without saving all the objects in its collection? |
| carterparks | you should think of it as phone validation |
| _codepoet_ | yeah |
| lambo4jos | i want to build a site that has user accounts, where there are four different types of accounts, free, paid1, paid2, paid3, etc. I am new to web development. Does anyone know any good blogs that describe this type of structure in ruby on rails or does anyone have any suggestions on how I might start to approach this? |
| carterparks | lambo4jos: you've got a lot to learn, i'd suggest picking up a good book on rails |
| stillflame | (when said container is being edited, and therefore already exists in the database) |
| carterparks | such as agile web development with rails |
| penius | lambo4jos: that sounds like a pretty complex site... the user account types will only be one aspect of the complexity... you may want to build something simpler first, to start |
| carterparks | i'm gonna go eat i'll be back later |
| penius | so what do you guys all think of the huge stock drop today? is it time for Bust 2.0? |
| mbelleza | hello |
| lambo4jos | carterparks: i know, i have them all. Im not concerned about programming but more so 'modeling' this world before coding |
| p34r | what does attr_accessor :foo do? the ruby docs are horrible at explaining it |
| mbelleza | pls..help me... |
| stillflame | i guess make a fresh container, fill it in, then set its id if i want to save it... |
| penius | lambo4jos: not concerned about programming? |
| lambo4jos | penius: i have built a blog and a simple social network already |
| penius | lambo4jos: using ruby on rails? |
| magic_hat | anyone got experience installing mongrel? |
| penius | magic_hat: do you have gems set up? it's as easy as gem install mongrel if so |
| lambo4jos | penius: yes but the complexity of modeling types of user accounts seems a bit confusing to me |