#ruby-lang - Sun 18 Mar 2007 between 00:59 and 01:19

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kiba-kuns/canendorse/can endorse
Vornicus: print a url on every work you did?
VornicusAnd by what law do you guarantee that royalties from all (new - used is another matter) sales of your book get to you?
kiba-kunI guess..contract law?
VornicusWithout copyright law, anybody can pass their publication as endorsed by you.
Just by putting your name on the cover.
kiba-kunI didn't say copyright law shouldn't be banished
you could have power to say that you can't or can modify this work
pythonicVornicus: that's a trademark violation.
kiba-kuncopyright law free artists and writers and that's a good thing
VornicusPythonic: technically it's fraud, since your name is not a trademark.
And even then it's not fraud - it says that it's by you, and it's correct.
kiba-kunbut when copyright get too powerful, it could be bad..
Vornicus: well you could sue them for slander since you didn't say you endorse their work
VornicusWhat it doesn't say is that you have given this particular publisher a license to reproduce your works, and that you are getting royalties from this reproduction.
thinfupythonic: heh, good point
VornicusThis is what copyright law is supposed to do - allow you to prevent people who aren't giving you money for the right to reproduce your work from making a profit off reproduction.
actionpythonic loves his suzerain
pythonicloves his suzerain
VornicusHowever, there is also such a thing as too much copyright - fair use is a provision of copyright law that allows you to do a lot of interesting stuff with copyrighted works without rgetting in trouble. This includes analysis, quoting of 'small' portions, and some other things. Also, many kinds of publications are not copyrightable - raw data and obvious forms of that data (phone books, for instance) aren't.
And then, most importantly, copyright expires. The state of the art advances by the things that you can reproduce freely. The problem is that nowadays copyright is so far extended as to be sprained.
THis is the essential challenge: how long is the right length? The most sensical version I have heard is "42 years or life, whichever is longer".
pythonic42? why 42?
VornicusTradition - Copyright was 14, then 14 + 14 renew, then 28, then 28 + 14 renew
And then it got all wahooni-shaped.
pythonici prefer copyright to extend far beyond the lifetime. then there's not so much profit motive in knocking me off.
VornicusThe only time a work /really/ makes profit, for an average work (not, say, Lord of the Rings) is in the first year or two.
bongomanJust doing a fresh install of Ruby 1.8.6 and RubyGems 0.9.2 and when I run script/console for a Rails app I get: report_activate_error': Could not find RubyGem builder (>= 2.0)
VornicusWhich is why the "whichever is longer" thing is sensical: unless you are Tolkien, you're not making money off it, and your work is out of print, long before 42 years hits.
pythonicthe new tab completion in bash is smart... and annoying :-)
Vornicusbongoman: OS, architecture, install method.
Also, previous version number for both gems and ruby.
pythonictar xzf foo<tab> matches files ending .tar.gz and tar xjf foo<tab> matches files ending .tar.bz2
Vornicuspythonic: /wack/
pythonicyour regexp matches thwack, thwacked, thwacker, thwackers, thwacks, wack, wackier, wackiest, wackiness, wacko, wakos and wacky.
s/wakos/wackos/
actionVornicus ponders pythonic.
Vornicusponders pythonic.
actionpythonic is imponderable.
pythonicis imponderable.
Vornicusyou, uh, just run every regex you see on /usr/share/dict/words, or something, don't you.
pythonicVornicus: /bingo/
Vornicus...what does that match?

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