#python - Sat 7 Apr 2007 between 00:22 and 01:39

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rrittenhouseAnyone here know how to use pyosd?
I'm trying to change the font size
aoirthoirhttp://iknowjack.com/pages/190917.php
coolness9Hey there, anybody python book reccomendations
Sulisthe o'reilly programming python book is good
coolness9pretty easy to understand? I'm pretty new to programming
like "Python for dummies" type of new
heh
Sulishmm, well i have o'reilly learning python too, but i thought that was a bit elimentary for myself, but a good book to start on
coolness9great
Joe630hi! i just found that int("100",2) will conver from base 2
dandersonyup.
Joe630how do i conver TO base 2 (or any other base)
coolness9I just want to learn good coding structure. I've used PHP for a while now, and it's pretty useful, but friends tell me it's an awful coding language
dandersoncoolness9: I subjectively agree. After about a year of programming Python, I had to write a tiny php script a couple of weeks ago. I couldn't stop cursing at the warts of php :)
coolness9eheh
I really like Python so far. I don't really understand my potentials, or what I'm going to do with it, but I like how it works
I mainly do web stuff, and I heard Python was a pain for web development. is this true?
toyto1coolness9, i am too a newbie on python but python gives a great coding convention. unlike in php, it gives me headache coz my colleague gives a 89% poor coding structure like no indention damn it really gives 90% headache when you're reading a code like that
coolness9lol
ewdafaframeworks like django and pylons make python web development relatively painless
coolness9okay
toyto1i don't think so if python would be a pain, it would be a pain really if we don't know what we're doing but if we know, it's not that painful. it would be painful if like as what i've said, when you read a long code with very poor coding structure. damn i bet you'll screw your boss :D
coolness9Would you guys have any examples of a real life python example for the web?
ewdafa?
coolness9yeah I know, I'm seriously new lol
toyto1coolness9 this might help you http://www.modpython.org/examples/
just very basic but would give you idea how to make it
coolness9so I'll probably ask dumb questions. Like mostly when you're on the web, you see pages written in PHP, but rarely have I seen a .py extension. Is this a page that is working with mod_python or something else?
okay
dandersonis there a good script around that can automate reindenting python code?
toyto1also read there on http://www.modpython.org site for starting, i started there as really don't have any idea about python, and now i learned
dandersonI'm on a project where different files use different numbers of spaces for indent, and want to fix it.
ewdafacoolness9: the extension isn't necessary
i'd also suggest you take a look here: http://www.djangobook.com/en/beta/
coolness9yeah that sounds good
ah that cool, thanks ewdafa
one question, what is the difference between a pylon and using mod_python?
Touqendanderson: http://svn.python.org/projects/python/trunk/Tools/scripts/pindent.py
coolness9i saw that in the python.web channel, but no body answered my q :)

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