| putz | once I'm done with PArchive I need to finish the page on my website my website isn't much either anyhow, which one do you recommend (if any of them)? |
| ebovine | I found django to be pretty lean. |
| putz | turbogears has a higher version number (barely) lean is good... |
| ebovine | Turbogears has much more "stuff". |
| putz | "stuff" as in inane features? |
| ebovine | I found I got more done faster with TurboGears. Django is lean as in "I hope you want to do everything the way we did... |
| Jerub | I'm using an ancient versioh of turbogears. |
| putz | well, I'd like a lot of flexibility |
| Jerub | I found they were changing too much too fast so U picked a version and stopped updating. |
| ebovine | TurboGears is pretty slick. Don't buy the TurboGears book, the code examples are s**t. |
| Jerub | Yes, I don't like djangos templating or orm very much. But sqlobject is woeful. I wish I'd gone with sqlalchemy way back. |
| polpak | turbo gears is basically just a bunch of glue scripts and code generation to bind together cherrypy with a template engine and sql object |
| putz | and with these frameworks I can have python code hiding in the background doing stuff like image resizing, etc? |
| ebovine | Yeah. |
| polpak | putz: yep |
| putz | score. |
| Jerub | yes, that's what turbogears is. And they did a good job of making it easy to install all those thingsl |
| putz | alright, I'm gonna emerge turbogears |
| ebovine | putz: Just install via easy_install |
| Jerub | putz: watch the screencast on turbogears.org for a good understanding of how to devlop with it. |
| polpak | django feels more cohesive imo, but I will admit going against the grain is harder then you'd expect (because going the way they intended is so easy) |
| Jerub | ebovine: I'm against using a non package manager way of installing things when there' sa packaged way of doing it. |
| ebovine | Jerub: I can understand that. On FreeBSD I prefer to install out of ports, if for no other reason than I get alerted when the package is out of date or has a security hole. |
| Jerub | ebovine: the other thing there is that it's possible to uninstall. with python third party stuff installed using distutils or ez_fuckup you can't. |
| ebovine | lol The downside is having to wait for the idiot that ports the package to get around to fixing it. |
| Jerub | oh, whoops, did I say that alternative name out loud? that's right. I develop out of svn for a lot of things that all said. but I don't use distutils or ez_setup for either of those. |
| ebovine | Or worse, on FreeBSD several weeks ago a guy set the permissions wrong on the bash executable and I couldn't ssh into my servers anymore. That was nice. |