| arkanes | yeah, my backlight is fine the screen is just a mess of garbage |
| ironfroggy | i say the moral of kosh's story is no one is the one. each has its place. |
| arkanes | I'm enjoying linux as my desktop more and more, really especially as an alternative to vista |
| kosh | yup each has their place, I even suspect that vista does work on some hardware, just not mine however even if it worked flawlessly it would still suck! |
| ironfroggy | i dont even boot into windows on the desktop, but its there |
| arkanes | I'd rather kick myself in the nuts than use vista |
| kosh | arkanes: I will need to test it eventually anyways to make sure stuff is compatible and it only cost me about $10 to get it |
| arkanes | only one of my laptops dual boots, pc and the other laptop are pure linux now |
| kosh | because I had xp64 so the vista upgrade was just shipping |
| arkanes | kosh: there' there's something about paying $600 so I can jump through hoops to make it work worse that irritates me windows is only $600 if your time is free, and all that |
| ironfroggy | are there upgrade paths from the lite "home" editions of vista to the "better" versions? |
| kosh | mine was only $10 for vista64 business edition which is the xp64 upgrade version ironfroggy: yeah there are and you can even do some kind of live upgrade for it |
| ironfroggy | kosh: hm, how much for a copy of xp64 :-) |
| kosh | ironfroggy: you can upgrade from any version to ultimate for a few hundred dollars |
| ironfroggy | kosh: im thinking when i want to try it ill play around with a cheap version first to decide if upgrading from there is even worth my money. |
| kosh | ironfroggy: I got it for $100 I think, I need some version of xp for testing and xp64 is the only one that would run on this box, I tried xp home and that won't even install |
| Bracki | argh. i keep having problems with win32api and conversion between unsigned ints etc. how do i get the value for 0xff880000? should be a signed int. not just a long. |
| ironfroggy | hmm... i could upgrade my box to a 64bit board and chip, but xp64, and upgrade to vista for the 10 bucks in shipping, and still save money from just buying vista right out. |
| kosh | xp home does not like my box because of all the irqs, xp 64 recognizes that there are about 512 irqs on this box and vista things there are about 4 billion but only the lower 512 have anything in them |
| ironfroggy | Bracki: what are you using, ctypes? |
| Bracki | there was trick with 2*MAXINT or something but i keep forgetting that no win32 pywin32 |
| ironfroggy | it doesnt handle that stuff itself? |
| Bracki | no |
| ironfroggy | im not sure i get it then. what are you actually getting that you need to convert to something else? |
| Bracki | i've got a wparam thats a signed int. but python converts 0xff880000 to a 123123124124L. |
| arkanes | it's the same bit pattern |
| ironfroggy | interesting, because i get 4287102976 |