| Cowmoo | yes, instead it has millions of useful non-IDE features like tetris |
| jmccaffrey | textmate is all the rage on mac because it was in the Ruby on Rails videos I am not convinced that it has alot of merit beyond that |
| Cowmoo | oh ok I know nothing about texdtmate other than the name + it's popular |
| tefsom | ehhehe |
| action | Vornotron uses TextWrangler on Mac |
| Vornotron | uses TextWrangler on Mac |
| jmccaffrey | While emacs does have alot of useless stuff, it was originally designed for computers that are much slower and antiquated than what most of us use, therefore, at least in my own experience, it runs really fast compared to other, more modern, IDEs out there. |
| tefsom | SubEthaEdit is not free cannot pay for a text editor |
| josePhoenix | computerlinguist, textmate is faster than smultron |
| Cowmoo | tefsom: I've had great suceess edting with emacs but it does have a learning curve...but it pays off |
| josePhoenix | I think smultron recalculates all the syntax hilighting with each character typed |
| jmccaffrey | http://aquamacs.org/ looks like a native OSX version of emacs if you wish to try |
| Cowmoo | jmccaffrey: emacs seems to get a little bit slower with many IRC buffers oopen |
| josePhoenix | and/or does so in an inefficient way |
| _d4rk_ | Here's a SIGTERM handler by sys.exit() doesn't seem to get called : http://phpfi.com/225807 Can someone tell me why? |
| Crashed | Anyone familiar with py2exe? |
| jmccaffrey | Cowmoo: Hmm now that is an interesting thing inwhich I have never tried lol |
| _d4rk_ | s/by/but/ |
| Vornotron | emacs does a lot of weird things, imo - the key combos are... arcane, especially for those who grew up in the age of Windows and Mac demanding that specific keys do specific things; the stackish yank scares me too. |
| computerlinguist | josePhoenix: I don't actually use Smultron, but it's open source my favourite editor is SubEthaEdit because of the collab features |
| josePhoenix | computerlinguist, I tired to use it. was getting 2fps... in text. but that was because I was using a clamshell ibook :P |
| Cowmoo | jmccaffrey: ERC :) |
| computerlinguist | ah good old machine |
| josePhoenix | I'll probably stop using textmate and start using smultron once I buy a new machine |
| Cowmoo | tefsom: for OS X you can download Carbon Emacs if yu care for emacs |
| tefsom | Cowmoo used emacs for years on my linux box too heavy |
| action | Vornotron uses, uh, nano, when he's stuck in a terminal. |
| Vornotron | uses, uh, nano, when he's stuck in a terminal. |
| josePhoenix | how do I get the last item added to a list? or item with the highest index? |
| Cowmoo | tefsom: did you feel it was bloated? |
| Vornotron | lst[-1] |
| computerlinguist | josePhoenix: list[-1] |