#python - Sun 18 Feb 2007 between 22:25 and 22:42

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sproingiethe reason i do web apps instead of wx or swing is because of multiple windows and bookmarking
koshand the system would even be indexable
sproingieso yes, some entry points of my apps are REST-ful. it's not a religion though
searches, view screens, edit screens. bookmarkable. the validation page after submitting a complete record, no
marcin_antkosh: you want to join html with rest (mentioned by sproingie) but it's not out reality now...
anyway I need to go to bed
night
koshmany of the things that js are used for it shoudl be possible to do directly without js
pbxBut that treat-any-HTML-element-as-a-target model is very lightweight. It's not like the JS overhead in building that kind of app is huge. Or even significant.
marienzheh.
insert wishful thinking about css support here
koshpbx: I have found that any use of js on a site leads to more problems with customers
pbx: even when the js is not essential in any way and works on or off we still have people that as long as the js is there they can't order stuff from the site
sproingiereally, even the "auto focus the search box" js?
koshsproingie: that is one I was just thinking of
sproingiei find people complain to no end when i don't use that bit of js
koshsproingie: some people seem to have screwed up windows boxes, something corrupted in it or something and IE will think that js works and try to use it but it doesn't realy work
or their security program go haywire
sproingieat worst that js does nothing
koshprobably because of all the attacks going on within the system ;)
sproingiei can't help people's broken installs, they'll be screwed with or without js
koshsproingie: actually pure html + css pretty much always works no matter how screwed up their install it
sproingie: even if their machine is laden with spyware, antispyware, norton crap etc they can still usually checkout
CJLucasdoes anyone know about uri syntax?
pbxCJLucas: What about it?
CJLucasif the url im using with pycurl is follows that standard
pbxPaste it?
sproingiekosh: all that AV stuff only works if people update it
CJLucaspbx: can i PM you
pbxsi
sproingiekosh: thankfully i haven't had to design an app for an external customer in years.
koshsproingie: in an ideal world (firefox, konqueror, safari, opera etc) js degrades gracefully ..... in the world we have (IE) it sometimes does not
sproingie: you should see what it took to figure out what was causing the problems
actionsproingie designs for internal use, and has users on IE, ff, and opera. they all do fine with jsf's javascript
sproingiedesigns for internal use, and has users on IE, ff, and opera. they all do fine with jsf's javascript
koshif they are internal users you probably also have more control over their machines
and so they are not battlegrounds, involved in 10+ botnets etc
sproingiein fact the only thing off is that i don't pay much attention to CSS for IE
so various things are off in appearance
most of the dept is on firefox
koshI have only seen the weird js issues in IE

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