| scrottie | ... continuations are insanely useful! they're also extremely difficult to explain to people who don't understand, like objects. |
| rindolf | scrottie: we had a blind programmer here the other day. We discussed accessibility of programming languages with him. Python would have been almost perfect for him if it weren't for indentation. |
| scrottie | ack |
| rindolf | And Perl is better in this respect but has all the weird characters. And Lisp is the worst. |
| Khisanth | rbrown: @data = <F> /could/ be faster |
| rindolf | Right-parens Right-parens Right-parens Right-parens Heh. He liked Power Basic the most but said it was very powerless. |
| avar | rindolf: uh, lisp would be the best, no? |
| rindolf | avar: no, |
| scrottie | d'oh |
| avar | he should use something that auto-balances parens |
| rindolf | avar: Lisp code ends with a gazillion right-parens. |
| avar | easy m/kay |
| scrottie | \) |
| Khisanth | you should use something that auto-balances even if you are not blind :) |
| avar | ya, emacs++ |
| rindolf | avar: he likes "ed". I think he can use vim in ex mode. |
| scrottie | I used ed for about ten years... |
| avar | rindolf: I'm just saying that lisp is probably the language that can be made easiest for the blind. If you can effectively explain where in the optree you are.. |
| rindolf | nocturnal: is there a lot of IT in Sweden? I got the impression that there is. avar: oh, maybe. |
| bpalmer | avar: whereas I'd think a language that involves a lot of distinct syntax would be more useful |
| rindolf | bpalmer: I think so too. |
| avar | why is that useful? |
| nocturnal | rindolf: yeah sure, just like anywhere these days, not much demand for perl coders though if that's what you're thinking, to make money here you need to either be a server admin(in which case you'd probably use perl) or write graphical applications for windows |
| rindolf | nocturnal: oh. |
| nocturnal | java and .net for windows is huge lots of demand |
| rindolf | nocturnal: I think Windrose from #web is a Perl programmer living in Sweden. Most of her clients are GBish though. |
| nocturnal | rindolf: oh really, he has helped me a few times with my website, i never noticed he was from sweden or she |
| rindolf | nocturnal: she's a she. |
| nocturnal | cool |