#perl - Sat 7 Apr 2007 between 07:28 and 07:33

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oferportable programs
daliaspretty?
ofer, that's sun's advertising, not truth
jjoreoh and being regular enough to be refactorable by *tools*.
daliastruth is that java is not portable at all
jjoreunlike perl.
oferit makes you write maintainable code
it's 100% pure OO
daliassaying java is portable is like saying super nintendo games are portable because i can run an snes emulator on any system....
jjorethen there's the bytecode which I hope one day to have a good reason to dive into.
mjl69numbers are not objects
daliasit's 100% pure shit is what it is
maukeofer: methods aren't objects
ofermjl69, that's right. because a number is not an identity, it is a value
maukeFAIL at OO
magic_useremacs was pissing me off earlier today
maukemagic_user: why are you evading your ban?
daliasmagic_user, fighting with indention?
ofermauke, is there a language where methods are objects ?
mjl69ofer: in ruby they are
maukeofer: javascript?
probably common lisp too
oferright.
forgot all about JS
magic_userwhat happened was that I had 4 line but ctl p would bring me 4 lines up
4 lines on the screen were 1 to emacs
oferso which is the best language ?:)
daliasmagic_user, insanely long wrapping line?
maukenow would be a good time to reban magic_user
jjoreVisual Basic!
magic_usermauke please take it easy jesus
actionjjore snickers.
jjoresnickers.
maukemagic_user: I'm taking it easy. now go away please.
daliasjjore, VB isn't as bad as java even
VB is a RAD language, it's not marketed as a language for sane development process
oferI don't understand why nobody invents the perfect language. We all know what it takes
daliasbut java is marketed (and worse yet, taught in colleges) as if it were a proper language
jjore"proper language?"
daliasofer, huh? "the perfect language" depends on your problem domain
magic_userjava is painful to work with at my job

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