| Randal | I'm sorry I helped you now. Seriously |
| overkordbaever | Don't know if it's even that book |
| eden_c | it's a good book, it's worth the $ |
| Randal | don't be an ass. if you have it, erase it. "Learning Perl 6" will be available for personal download. but for the prior versions, no. |
| overkordbaever | Doesn't seem like I have it |
| Randal | Or anything else from O'Reilly? |
| overkordbaever | I have a printed book from O'Reilly :P (linux security cookbook= |
| Randal | which one? |
| overkordbaever | ) |
| Randal | oh |
| overkordbaever | Though, one thing that's hard to pirate is books, it's not too nice to read on screen and printing costs as much as buying the book |
| nuba | Randal> I'm sorry I helped you now. oh come on randal |
| Randal | come on what? if he was pirating my books, why wouldn't I feel that way? |
| nuba | dont you think he can be educated and maybe contribute to the community at some point ? |
| Lorn | Randal: where i can download "Learning Perl 6"? ( not for pirate :P ) |
| overrider_ | i sometimes like to have a pdf reference |
| Randal | Lorn - you can download it ... FROM THE FUTURE! |
| nuba | people do mistakes, you dont just "garbage collect" them do make mistakes |
| Randal | nuba - if he repents, no problem but if he had kept it, I would continue to feel sorry and would not help him again |
| Lorn | Randal: haha, ok :) |
| Randal | and would brand him a pirate, and hope that others would also not help him we have many economic models for producing quality books. We have to decide up front if it'll be public download or not, as it affects who gets paid and when and how. you can't change the model after the fact. that's why, up front, we're deciding that Learning Perl 6 will have personal downloads for free. because we can adjust everything else behind the scenes to accomodate that. for example, reduced sales to O'Reilly means we have to use fewer editorial resources, so to accomodate, we're publishing draft chapters for community review earlier. it's a complex tradeoff. pirates CANNOT make the choice for us "after the fact". it just doesn't work. people are getting ripped off then. |
| nuba | sure |
| Randal | brian made an interesting comment that pirates generally stop pirating the first time they produce a difficult collaborative project. :) |
| nuba | glad to see you (& it seems, o'reilly) are open to other economic models too |
| Randal | the amount of work to make Learning Perl a quality book needs to have an economic offset though. |