| hardeharrHArr | wow |
| Harzilein | alester: i did not claim otherwise alester: i just said that i can use cpan without ppm stuff interfering |
| alester | Harzilein: My mistake, sorry. Yes, you can. |
| hardeharrHArr | why not use cpan command line rather than ppm and if your on windows switch to linux windows is shit |
| jagerman | you're |
| Harzilein | hardeharrHArr: you did not read _anything_ i wrote above, right? |
| hardeharrHArr | you're |
| jagerman | If you can't spell, maybe you belong on Windows. ;) |
| hardeharrHArr | well I only see a post to alester...... I personally reccomend not using cpan automated tool download and compile the packages the tool is buggy |
| Harzilein | hardeharrHArr: then you did not scroll back enough. there i write i want to write stuff i want to ship to windows users. i think checking how they will do things is a nice start for that |
| Caelum | hardeharrHArr: you can write your web apps in assembly language, too, and you're unlikely to notice the speed difference |
| Harzilein | hardeharrHArr: yeah, because you seem to be an expert on such things... |
| hardeharrHArr | I have alwys had problems with it, and some geniuses use an install.pl not MakeFile.pl which throws everything off |
| jagerman | marienz: Just skip activeslut perl entirely and get strawberry perl |
| hardeharrHArr | expert? woa don't call me one |
| jagerman | Harzilein, that is. |
| Caelum | Harzilein: yes, you can use cpan and ppm together. If you're going to be doing windows stuff, look at wxPerl, wxGlade, Win32::GUI and PAR |
| hardeharrHArr | ah |
| Harzilein | hardeharrHArr: i was being cynical, but i believe that concept is way above you |
| hardeharrHArr | me? |
| Harzilein | Caelum: i don't want to write a gui, let that be my problem, k? |
| hardeharrHArr | I am great with concepts, it's reality that I struggle with |
| jagerman | Harzilein: Then you can be completely and wonderfully oblivious to that ppm crap. |
| Harzilein | jagerman: yeah, that's why i asked if having ppm installed would interfere with me using cpan anyway. now that that's out of the way... |
| jagerman | Harzilein: It sort of does |
| Caelum | there's a free microsoft C/C++ compiler you can use with activestate too, if mingw doesn't work |
| jagerman | Harzilein: I think ppm keeps track of installed things differently |
| Harzilein | Caelum: free? msvc doesn't look so free for me |
| Caelum | Harzilein: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/visualc/aa336490.aspx |
| Harzilein | jagerman: as long as it puts stuff somewhere else and i can set global @INC to exclude that i'm fine. my fears were about it somehow trying to be intelligent with cpan stuff |
| jagerman | Harzilein: ppm was a dumb mistake. |
| Caelum | CPAN doesn't do any sort of file management, if it can load a module it assumes it's installed |
| Ani-_ | Caelum: Are you sure you can just use any C-compiler? As in, doesn't it require the same compiler as the one used to build perl? |