| rindolf | Heh. I'd rather not inc or dec ofer0 so he won't reprocriate (sp?) |
| Botje | retaliate? |
| rindolf | I still don't know how he got so much karma. Botje: right. Retaliate, reprocriate - same thing. peterS++ # Good input. peterS: but I think I'll just leave it as is. |
| peterS | rindolf: if you wish. I'm just saying, people will ask why you want to make a big change to a project you are not centrally involved in, and they'll be happier if you can point to concrete problems rather than theoretical ones. the last person to try to barge into linux kernel land and social-engineer things his own way was Eric Raymond a few years ago, and he got laughed right off the list |
| ofer0 | rindolf, good article |
| peterS | well, not laughed off, but people balked at doing what he wanted them to do just because he thought it was a good idea, and eventually his ideas were ignored to the point where he got bored and drifted away |
| rindolf | See: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/2465 |
| Khisanth | peterS: but this is rindolf we are talking about here ;) |
| rindolf | ofer0: thanks. I do like the "Let the flames begin" pun. But it may be rehearsed. peterS: some of my suggestions did make a difference. |
| Khisanth | so instead of contributing you are going to waste people's time? :/ |
| rindolf | Khisanth: next time I hear this "waste the precious developers' time it takes to read a message [10 minutes]" argument, I swear I'm going to go out and kill a kitten. It's bull. My most productive time is not spent writing code. |
| integral | If you need somewhere to troll, p6i is quiet! ... |
| rindolf | integral: perl6-internals? |
| integral | yeah |
| Khisanth | reading a message doesn't, starting a flamewar does -_- |
| rindolf | Wow! It's been very busy. Khisanth: you can filter it out. |
| ofer0 | rindolf, slashdot it :) |
| rindolf | ofer0: right. |
| Khisanth | and you seem especially talented at rubbing people the wrong way |
| rindolf | Khisanth: some of my most productive and enlightening time is spent in flamewars. |
| perlygatekeeper | some people pay good money for that |
| peterS | my mention of eric raymond wasn't completely coincidental |
| integral | perlbot, top 20 karma |
| perlbot | The top 20 karma entries: C: 2173, vim: 674, bsd: 670, ofer0: 666, audreyt: 408, $i: 340, C/C: 291, iblech: 236, satisfied customer: 199, fglock: 186, gaal: 181, $x: 143, merlyn: 140, putter: 138, stevan: 132, Perl: 130, GumbyBRAIN: 116, integral: 110, larry: 109, TimToady: 104 |
| integral | peterS++ # illustrative examples |
| Khisanth | peterS: so they are similar? |
| perlygatekeeper | ofer0 is 666 hmmmm |
| ofer0 | perlygatekeeper, yeap. |
| rindolf | You'll be surprised of what I've learned. |