| rmah | acid_burn: how can you know that if you don't know any programming languages yet? |
| action | rmah is puzzled |
| rmah | is puzzled |
| acid_burn | Because logic and syntax undergird everything in life. |
| Teal_Stallion | dmpk2k, it just depends on the student's ability to learn |
| acid_burn | Right. |
| Teal_Stallion | or atleast, take the time to learn |
| acid_burn | Uh-huh. |
| rmah | not really. most of life is "undergirded" by emotion |
| acid_burn | Now you're thinking too big. But thanks, Teal_Stallion. |
| dmpk2k | Teal_Stallion: I'm more worried about motivation. A beginner needs to see results fast. |
| rmah | don't I know you from somewhere else, acid_burn? |
| dmpk2k | C++ just doesn't allow that. |
| rmah | your nick sounds really familiar |
| acid_burn | Uh, I don't know, rmah. |
| dmpk2k | rmah: movie. |
| rmah | dmpk2k: not all people are impatient idiots |
| acid_burn | I'm a patient a person. |
| rmah | dmpk2k: nah |
| acid_burn | Whoops. Yeah, patient idiots can usually learn quite all right. |
| dmpk2k | rmah: I think that's an unfortunate attitude to take. Everyone needs feedback to keep them going. |
| acid_burn | Yeah. Feedback is good. |
| rmah | dmpk2k: sure, but some people can delay gratification more than others |
| dmpk2k | Positive reinforcement, and all that. |
| acid_burn | Emotional intelligence. |
| dmpk2k | Yes, they can. So you'd cut out the rest? |
| rmah | dmpk2k: yes from personal experience, I feel that too many people try to be programmers |
| dmpk2k | A pity. I won't debate that. |
| rmah | ok |
| Teal_Stallion | rmah, how do to many people try to be programmers |
| rmah | Teal_Stallion: they lack the disipline, dedication and, dare I say it, intelligence (not that you need a whole lot) to be good at their craft when I interview people, 80% to 90% are utter incompetents |
| acid_burn | Discipline. Haha. |
| rmah | it's freaking scary |
| Teal_Stallion | what would be "utter incompetent" |