| anno | perlygatekeeper: no, those hashes aren't objects the objects are usually just blessed refs to an undefined scalar |
| integral | Good afternoon. |
| f00li5h | integral: 'ello |
| perlygatekeeper | integral, do you guys in UK do Daylight Savings Time or is this Idiocy just a yank thang? anno, is NOT |
| anno | is not what? |
| hobbs | what is not what? Am I the only one who hasn't seen pgk say anything coherent since I came in? :) |
| perlygatekeeper | anno, most of the objects I've run across are blessed references to hashes |
| eMish | ; |
| f00li5h | perlygatekeeper: someone is having each o'clock arround the word |
| perlygatekeeper | not scalars |
| integral | Yes, we do it, but we don't change it. It'd be a bloody miracal for parliament to agree on a change. |
| anno | right. or other types. |
| hobbs | perlygatekeeper: yes, and these aren't most objects :) |
| f00li5h | hobbs: i've also seen that not happening |
| anno | ioo are different in that respect |
| perlygatekeeper | oh good lord are you lucky |
| eMish | How can I have perl print call stack at runtime errors, (not only line number of the bottom-level function) ? |
| perlygatekeeper | I wish theyed just eliminate it |
| integral | eMish: Usee the Carp module |
| f00li5h | eMish: confess |
| anno | eMish Carp::confess Carp::cluck |
| f00li5h | tehe, cluck |
| integral | You can get it to automatically happen with: BEGIN { require Carp; $SIG{__DIE__} = \&Carp::confess; $SIG{__WARN__} = \&Carp::cluck } |
| perlygatekeeper | imagine, an event happens at 2:30AM Septemter 21, and one must ask, which 2:30AM the first or the second |
| eMish | great |
| integral | There's also modules like CGI::Carp. |
| f00li5h | perlygatekeeper: pardon? |
| anno | there's also a way to make carp confess when it originally was asked to croak/carp |
| perlygatekeeper | because of Daylight Savings time |
| f00li5h | perlygatekeeper: you only get one 0230 per timezone per day |
| integral | perlygatekeeper: What we should do it have the timezone vary in second increments through out the year, so that each night we either have one less second, no extra seconds, or 1 extra second. |
| perlygatekeeper | not on the fall change over day |
| hobbs | perlygatekeeper: with inside-out, since the data isn't stored _in_ the thing that's being referenced, the only requirement is that it be blessed, and unique. and obviously scalars are small and simple :) |
| f00li5h | perlygatekeeper: i'd imagine that NTP would make that hour run at a different speed |
| perlygatekeeper | that would adjust things 365/2 seconds |
| hobbs | f00li5h: no... |