| somian | Now I can tear something up ... now i can be a tearist |
| action | somian bows and thanks hobbs for the shove to the small of the back |
| somian | bows and thanks hobbs for the shove to the small of the back |
| hobbs | nice thing about CUPS is that it's actually fairly simple. If you can print a test page, you're set. There aren't 30 other things to do ;) |
| somian | I enthusiastically agree. I am used to Linux system setup being about 15 detailed steps in a row "X then Y then Z to get this going" and so forth. |
| hobbs | somian: things have been getting better for years |
| somian | I just envangelized Ubuntu (and Knoppix as a footnote) to a PhD biochemist tonight |
| hobbs | actually I'm trying to screw with a little system running linux 2.4 right now, it's amazing how much of a PITA some things are because I've just gotten used to the general _decency_ of modern systems ;) |
| somian | Yeah ;-) |
| action | somian actually knows some people in society outside online life, and went to be with some of them tonight ;-) |
| somian | actually knows some people in society outside online life, and went to be with some of them tonight ;-) |
| crunge | I've never had much of a good experience with CUPS, but I suspect the issue may be with how I expect it to work |
| hobbs | I just hexedited a kernel module to get it to attach to my device, because in 2.4 that's all hardcoded |
| somian | OMG, hobbs |
| hobbs | and to rebuild the module would mean getting source, patching a hundred patches, installing the right crosscompiler... :) |
| crunge | hobbs: l33t |
| somian | You are da wiz yeah, l33t indeed ;-) |
| crunge | hobbs: teack me 2 hax hobbs: plz |
| hobbs | somian: well I cheated, I replaced an existing entry in the table instead of trying to _extend_ the table. That probably would have been about impossible and I did have the source to look at, I just couldn't build it :) |
| somian | That's actually a reall ysmart cheat, I am impressed. Somtimes changing a byte or two is the Right Thing To Do! |
| hobbs | the good news is that the hack worked, the bad news is that gpsdrive still locks up er, crashes rather |
| action | somian looks over the new Makefile::Parser CPAN module and ponders whether it could possibly handle the stuff he normally sees^W creates. |
| somian | looks over the new Makefile::Parser CPAN module and ponders whether it could possibly handle the stuff he normally sees^W creates. ... and wtf. Why do the browsers (Galeon and FFx) on this new ubuntu machine print code text in var-width fonts .. |
| Aankhen`` | "At this very early stage, the parser only supports a limited set of features, so it may not recognize some advanced features provided by certain make tools like GNU make." |
| somian | s{print}{display and print} |
| hobbs | somian: probably just need to go into the fonts setup and select an actual fixed-width font as the "fixed width" font pref :) |
| crunge | hobbs: why are you stuck with 2.4? |
| hobbs | (in the browser) crunge: It's a Zaurus. There's one distro that runs 2.6, but doesn't do lots of other stuff that I want; the others are running a wacky hacked-up 2.4 (and considering slowly moving to 2.6) |
| somian | monospace (quote) IS a valid font on my system It's probably a damn xft thing. |
| hobbs | yeah, probably aliased to bitstream vera sans mono by fontconfig |
| somian | It's the site's HTML/CSS, not the browsers. Sorry. Real plain text (like the source for a module shown on search.cpan.org) is displaying as one would expect. |
| action | CPAN upload: Net-DNS-Callback-1.03 by SHEVEK |
| CPAN | upload: Net-DNS-Callback-1.03 by SHEVEK |
| somian | I have to look at some docu source now and figure out what's being asked for that isn't working for the browser. Unless they are sheer idiots, all the authors of the pages doing this ought to be saying font-family: foo,bar,baz,monospace; |