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<meta-morph-O1> but I used terminal to open kdecontrol
<kkathman> meta-morph-O1: now - what kinds of issues are you experiencing
<meta-morph-O1> so that would make sense why none of those changes I made are taking place : )
<meta-morph-O1> my taskbar disappeared for one : )
<kkathman> in gnome?
<meta-morph-O1> right
<meta-morph-O1> I don't know how to run KDE
<ReAn[SuSE]> ok
<ReAn[SuSE]> all the -snapshot versions are installed
<ReAn[SuSE]> now what?
<meta-morph-O1> you have to tell me more before I can elaborate...I assume I'm in GNOME but it could be KDE...how would I know
<kkathman> meta-morph-O1: ok... try this - if you hit ctrl-alt-backspace this will restart X, and SHOULD give you a logon...that should allow you to go into KDE or gnome.. you'll see the choices... select gnome and see if things impreove
<kkathman> ReAn[SuSE]: hmmm
<ReAn[SuSE]> beryl-manager?
<ReAn[SuSE]> ok
<kkathman> ReAn[SuSE]: go to beryl-manager, right click and double check that the window manager selected is Beryl...if so, check Kwin and then switch back to beryl
<ReAn[SuSE]> that's worse now :o
<ReAn[SuSE]> yea
<ReAn[SuSE]> kwin i got em back
<ReAn[SuSE]> then i went beryl
<ReAn[SuSE]> and they disapeared again
<ReAn[SuSE]> and now my taskbar @ the bottom gets white shit
<kkathman> ReAn[SuSE]: you need to reload the window decorator each time also
<ReAn[SuSE]> no luck
<meta-morph-OS> kkathman: didn't give me an option but did restart - taskbar: huge success! : )
<ReAn[SuSE]> oooh
<ReAn[SuSE]> i think i got it
<kkathman> ReAn[SuSE]: go to Beryl-manager and reselect the window decorator
<kkathman> meta-morph-OS: excellent
<meta-morph-OS> so you reccommend gnome over kde 11/10 times?
<ReAn[SuSE]> nope
<ReAn[SuSE]> :(
<kkathman> meta-morph-OS: I personally use KDE - its just a matter of preference
<ReAn[SuSE]> kkathman: changing window decs or reloading it does squat
<kkathman> ReAn[SuSE]: when you go to Select Window decorated what is checked?
<ReAn[SuSE]> "Standard Beryl Decorator (Emerald)"
<meta-morph-OS> well it seems that most of the knowledgable susers use KDE so I'll prob switch
<misha> http://en.opensuse.org/ATI_Driver_HOWTO there is somthing about ATI +beryl+KDE
<kkathman> ReAn[SuSE]: ok...then can you get the emerald theme manager to come up?
<ReAn[SuSE]> yea
<Guilt> microchip_: oooooooooooh
<Guilt> :)
<ReAn[SuSE]> with no title-bar of course
<kkathman> ReAn[SuSE]: ok..then can you select another theme and it works?
<ReAn[SuSE]> but it's up
<ReAn[SuSE]> which tab do i do that from exactly?
<ReAn[SuSE]> Themes?
<ReAn[SuSE]> cuz it's blank
<kkathman> yeah themes
<ReAn[SuSE]> but the "Edit Themes" tab has a bunch of stuff
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