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<emu> you know you're a haskell fanatic when su'ing to root and hitting C-p for the prev command brings up "runghc Setup.hs install"
<DynWind> :)
<emu> is putty unicode capable?
<DynWind> haven't a clue
<syntaxfree> yay for graphviz!
<emu> yes
<syntaxfree> I think I'm never going to write text again!
<syntaxfree> my mind maps so much better to graph form
<emu> spineless, tagless?
<syntaxfree> ?
<ddarius> Unfortunately, graphs are rarely a dense presentation of information.
<DynWind> speaking of mind maps, does anyone find those mind-mapping software useful?
<syntaxfree> dynwind: just use graphviz :)
<syntaxfree> I find myself developing theoretical ideas as I add nodes to a graph.
<EvilTerran> emu, i think putty does unicode.
<DynWind> I've recently started to use Muse (wiki inside emacs) to keep track of stuff
<EvilTerran> i've managed to get a +- character out of it, at least.
<DynWind> syntaxfree: you mean you write a dot file for every "topic"?
<syntaxfree> yes, basically.
<syntaxfree> I start out by mapping ideas in my head, and then I begin to find the connections are under-explained.
<syntaxfree> then as I expand the nodes I start to find new connections!
<DynWind> hmm, you have any sample I could perhaps see?
<syntaxfree> I'm working on one right now, but it's in portuguese.
<sm> good morning all
<sm> to profile my app, do I need to recompile every library with -prof ?
<DynWind> well, if I can watch Portuguese movies, I guess I can look at portuguese graphs as well ;)
<syntaxfree> okie!
<syntaxfree> just a min, then.
<syntaxfree> I'm uploading one to imageshack.
<syntaxfree> but imageshack is slow today!
<Lemmih> sm: Yes.
<syntaxfree> does "profile" mean "see what functions are taking so long"?
<syntaxfree> http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/7029/mindmapwf0.jpg
<syntaxfree> there's a mindmap graph.
<DynWind> thanks!
<sm> what's the easiest way to do that (reinstall all with -prof) ? I have the ghc source here
<sm> and will that impose a big penalty for normal use ?
<sm> syntaxfree: yes it does
<Saizan> the standard installation provides both normal and -prof binaries for the libs
<Lemmih> sm: There will be no penalty for normal use. You'll get two versions of the libraries.
<Lemmih> sm: You're missing profiling versions of the standard libraries?
<sm> well, I do ghc --make -prof myprog.hs and get Could not find module `Test.QuickCheck': Perhaps you haven't installed the profiling libraries for package QuickCheck-1.0?
<Lemmih> sm: Did you compile GHC yourself?
<sm> yes, I installed ghc from source and have been installing libraries as needed
<sm> gropingly
<syntaxfree> I wonder whatever happened to entoo for MacOS X, btw.
<Lemmih> sm: Weird, profiling should be enabled by default.
<sm> hmm.. think I'll re-autoreconf/configure/make
<Lemmih> sm: Check GhcLibWays from mk/build.mk
<sm> will that install everything in libraries/ as well ? I'm not sure
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