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<hal23456> I am going to go now, in case I get into trouble! ;-)
<hal23456> bye all
<BillyB2> whats the best way for me to find out if centos/rhel supports a specific onboard NIC chipset? RHEL HW compatibility lists just contain complete systems??
<longword> Try an install and see what happens
<longword> What's the hardware?
<BillyB2> gigabyte ds3
<BillyB2> marvell yukon 8053
<BillyB2> googling turns up conflicing accounts of it working / not working
<BillyB2> i have to buy 10 systems for a cluster ... trial and error is going to be costly
<BillyB2> marvell yukon 8053 is the onboard chipset
<Makenshi> BillyB2, call RedHat sales, they will tell you
<longword> Or ask the hardware vendor for a guarantee it works with RHEL4 out-of-the-box
<BillyB2> Makenshi i doubt they would go to any effort to certify desktop mobos for ent use
<Makenshi> I doubt it too, so the answer is most likely 'no'
<BillyB2> longword gigabyte doesnt support linux directly ... they say go to our chipset vendor. marvell does provide a driver
<BillyB2> s/our/your
<BillyB2> but providing a driver and it working arnt the same thing ;)
<BillyB2> especially on a cluster where networking perf and stability are NB
<Makenshi> If they don't support it, I would not even consider it
<longword> If they're not prepared to stand by the product /before/ you buy it...
<Haro> hi,
<Makenshi> Given the vast range of hardware available, it is not unreasonable to limit support to those which they have tested and certified
<BillyB2> longword well the only other option is similar commodity mobos using the realtek 8112 onboard nic
<BillyB2> its marvell yukon vs. realtek 8112 ... two choices
<BillyB2> Makenshi im not expecting support
<BillyB2> never did
<longword> There are lots of people selling boards with e1000 onboard
<longword> Intel for starters
<BillyB2> longword thats the same chip as their 1000 GT standalone nic?
<Makenshi> BillyB2, then use whatever hardware you want, with the driver from the manufacturer
<BillyB2> Makenshi <BillyB2> but providing a driver and it working arnt the same thing ;)
<longword> Billy: AFAIK Intel have only one line of gigabit chips. There are several variants, but they're all supported by the e1000 driver which Intel themselves support directly with an open source driver.
<BillyB2> longword yeah ... perhaps the ds3 + separate 1000 gt nic is the way to go
<BillyB2> but i hate duplicating hw for no reason
<Haro> Makenshi, you assisted me earlier but i'm still stuck - is there a way to allow all traffic in and out just to see if iptables is the problem?
<torbjorn> service iptables stop
<Makenshi> Haro, yes, `iptables -F INPUT`
<Makenshi> this will remove all rules from the input chain
<Makenshi> if you have rules in other chains, you will need to do the same for it, eg, iptables -F FORWARD
<torbjorn> "service iptables stop" is better, it does all the chains and resets policies
<Makenshi> Actually, I think it is better to teach the use of iptables first, so one knows what it does
<Haro> thanks for the help... and i tend to agree with Makenshi - i learnt something today
<Makenshi> Haro, you are welcome
<Haro> unfortunately i still have a problem - the centos box gets pop3 mail no problem but my users on the other side of the proxy cant get pop3 or smtp traffic
<breakdisk> hi,guys,i have a question is it advisable to customise to kernel if only for one application you will run on it,like radius server.to make it light and stable.
<alleycat> breakdisk: no.
<breakdisk> alleycat:i mean recompile kernel for specific application only.sorry for the word customise.
<alleycat> breakdisk: unless you have a _strong_ need for another kernel, just the use in the distro
<alleycat> breakdisk: in a previous life (kernel 2.0 / 2.1 era ) I used to run every new breed of kernel available
<alleycat> and in the 2.1 era there were times when 2-3 release a day were common
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