stiv2k | i dont see anything |

Steve|Office | Keep looking. |

stiv2k | are you expecting me to cancel something out |

Steve|Office | Not as such. Maybe you should consider my questions to be leading questions. What is the connection with u = cos x and my telling you to look at u^2 and u du? |

stiv2k | great he quits i still dont get this |

buggler | u/sqrt(1 + u^2) ? look at it for a while and youll know what to do like steve| said |

stiv2k | udu i've been looking at it for 10 minutes now |

buggler | you havent done enough differentiation exercises then do more differentiation before you start integration |

stiv2k | can i ask one favor just fuckin tell me how you did it, and it will refresh my memory |

Food | man i wish i had you guys during calc2 |

stiv2k | i've done it all i'm reviewing for the final i just need to remember it |

buggler | you can get lost |

stiv2k | i'm willing to take that risk |

excelblue | stiv2k: so, you're stuck on u*du/Sqrt(1+u^2)? |

stiv2k | excelblue: yea |

excelblue | IIRC, you can go directly from that and get an inverse trig function... but you can also do another u-substitution but with a different letter try letting v = (1 + u^2)( that'll get you dv = 2u*du |

buggler | excelblue: great, you give him the answer after what he just said to me... |

stiv2k | ah that works buggler: but his giving me the answer helped in the way i needed |

excelblue | I think he has struggled with this long enough - I'm sure he has lots more similar exercises coming up |

buggler | he has failure coming up |

excelblue | thinking on your own is beneficial only to some extent - after that, a few hints might start to be more useful hey, that's how I got through Calc 1... don't think I have a problem today just as long as it's only for one of them, and not everything |

buggler | ok, i still think starting to swear at a channel helper is not something you should respond to with help straight away |

stiv2k | buggler: my bad |

Eclipsor | excelblue: I wish I had this channel for the majority of calc 1 and not the last week :P |