#math - Sun 6 May 2007 between 16:15 and 16:18

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HiLanderthe issue is whether you presented that result as your own without giving credit to them
koroyou're not violating intellectual property, that formula isn't owned by anyone
saobiyou agree that by using f=ma, you have stolen others' ideas in your slolution
peachfuzzand since you did not they shall hang you in your colleges center square
saobiHiLander, ok, then by using f=ma, i failed to give credit to newton,
right?
HiLanderby stating that you have discovered that f=ma, yes.
saobibut if i didn't state it?
then it's ok?
KizakAnyone know how to compute a Nim Sum?
EdBoywell
we're doing physics in science class
HiLandergenerally, if you're given an assignment, and you find the solution in a paper, and then you present that solution as your own
saobiexplain to me the difference between using f=ma without citation, and my current situation
korosaobi: do you have a copy of your homework"?
saobinot with me
HiLanderyou're violating most university's honors system
EdBoywhich involves me using F=ma as well as A = (v_t-v_0)/t
HiLanderuniversities'
saobiHiLander, ok, but what is the difference between this case and using f=ma without citation
by this logic, every single one of my physics problem set violated honor code
cause i almost used f=ma in ALL of them without citation
koroaccording to saobi he didn't copy the solution from a paper
he just got some ideas from it
saobithat' sa pretty blatent violation, no?
koroin that case it would be ok
HiLanderit is
korobut it depends a lot on the context
saobiHiLander, so why am i not punished for that one?
Sairondiffrence is nobody would be led to belive you invented f=ma
korowe don't know exactly what he did
HiLanderunless your physics course assumes you are already familiar with f=ma
or covers it explicitly
saobiso you are saying there's no rigorous standard?
how am i supposed to follow it if there's no rigorous standard?
using f=ma without citation is ok, but not using a recent paper
how do u draw the line then?
koroi mean, i haven't seen any homework that disallows using the existing literature as an aid
HiLanderwhy didn't you cite the paper you found the method in in your assignment?
saobicause i didn't even think it was necessary

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