thermoplyae | Yes, unless you mean the conjugate transpose, in which case you... transpose |

babonk | 4*(4^x - 1)/3 + 1 happens to be all the numbers that get you to the 2^x's after (3x+1)/2 |

MrKeuner | thermoplyae: so if a non imaginary matrix A is hermitian if it is equal to A^T |

TRWBW | MrKeuner: you might mean conjugate transpose if you are talking about hermition matrix. that's just its transpose for a real matrix |

thermoplyae | Right, if it's self-adjoint |

MrKeuner | being self-adjoint == being symmetric? |

thermoplyae | For real-valued matrices, yes |

TRWBW | MrKeuner: you need the conjugation with complex numbers so that dot product ends up be a real number, using conjugate transpose follows from that. |

Anil | hi maks |

__mikem | Who just got banned? |

Anil | well, a troll. |

ihope | Here's an interesting symbol: |

FatalError | aleph? |

maks | Hi Anil :) |

medfly | N for someone with my eyesight.. ;) |

FatalError | ;P |

ihope | That's the symbol for the natural numbers. |

Dreadshoot | what symbol? |

FatalError | not usually |

action | __mikem is reading the book, "An Imaginary Tale, the story of the square root of -1" |

__mikem | is reading the book, "An Imaginary Tale, the story of the square root of -1" |

ihope | Actually, it's a DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL N. |

FatalError | usually it's the "blackboard style" N |

ihope | __mikem: I have that! |

FatalError | \mathbb{N} ;) |

ihope | At least, I think I do. |

FatalError | but here the "N" you printed showed as an Aleph (a hebrew letter) |

ihope | You sure it's an aleph? |

FatalError | it's what it showed up as here |

ihope | What about this: |

thermoplyae | Here's something for you guys to chew on: http://www.mathbin.net/9662 |

FatalError | ihope, I wouldn't count on our IRC clients all using the same character set anyway |

thermoplyae | Someone on here showed yesterday that it tended to zero, but I'm not convinced (mostly because I didn't understand) |

ihope | Yes, I know. |

Dreadshoot | nvm |

Manyfold | thermoplyae: sum_i n choose i =2 ^n |

Kampen | that showed up as aleph for me too ihope the first one showed up as the blackboard bold for naturals |

thermoplyae | Yeah, I agree that it's bounded from above by 1 |