#math - Sun 11 Mar 2007 between 00:15 and 00:22

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fantasmalol!
kmh_:)
put in on google video
akshathey, which is better mathemtica or matlab?
fantasmawhen's episode v come out?
|Steve|I think I've read the entire transcript here already.
kmh_the geeks might love it
akshat : they are for different purposes
akshatkmh_, can you please explain , i am new to this
yihow do you cook up a degree 5 irreducible polynomial in F_2[x] ?
kmh_akshat : matlab is mainly numeric and for matrices, mathematica is general CAS so in particular symbolic math (but graphics and numerics as well)
fantasmadon't forget Maple
akshatfantasma, and what about maple?
kmh_akshat : maple is an alternative to mathematica
|Steve|yi x^5 + x^4 + 1?
Or x^5 + x + 1.
akshati have heard that a lot of other software use mathematica libraries, like matlab
kmh_akshat : it really depends on what you need
fantasmaI don't think it's quite as powerful as mathematica, and MathWorld uses mathematica
yi|Steve|: hurmm, this page does not list them
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/IrreduciblePolynomial.html
it has a table of irreducible polynomials in F_2 of degree 5 at the bottom
TRWBWyi: in F_2 x^n=x, and x+x=0, so anything that starts with 1 and then has an even number of other terms is irreducible
kmh_akshat : if you just need some math software good for all kinds of things (i.e. relatively broad) go with mathematica or maple or mupad
fantasmais there a definitive book on discrete mathematics?
kmh_akshat : there's also a free alternative for mathematica/maple : maxima
fantasma : probably plenty
GriswoldOT: Anyone know of a windows app that might use a 16 bit cursor?
TRWBWfantasma: discrete math per-se isn't considered a serious subject. it's taught to people as a subsitute for teaching them the real stuff. my opinion anyways.
yiTRWBW: sorry, why is that true?
fantasmaTRWBW, real stuff?
kmh_TRWBW : i don't agree
akshatbut are all these similar in commands, because i don't want to get confused using different things at home and at in college
TRWBWfantasma: combinatorics, graph theory, logic, lattice theory, and basic number theory mostly
kmh_TRWBW : it is like saying calculus is not the real stuff
TRWBWkmh_: even less so
fantasmaTRWBW, that IS discrete mathematics
GriswoldWhat is wrong with combinatorics and logic?
kmh_fantasma : the problem is under the label discrete math you teach a lot of different subjects each of them worthy of its own class
TRWBWfantasma: yes. and the good books on those have names like "combinatorics" or "graph theory" or "number theory"

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