| rahul | at least maine is scenic |
| action | Xach can say with some confidence rahul has not yet visited lubec |
| Xach | can say with some confidence rahul has not yet visited lubec |
| Cowmoo | isn't Oakland where many rappers are from |
| slyrus | even Oakland wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't so damn close to home |
| action | slyrus is from Oakland |
| slyrus | is from Oakland |
| Cowmoo | are you a rapper? |
| slyrus | you'll have to ask the other ILC attendees at the end of next week |
| Cowmoo | aha |
| rahul | heh http://www.visitlubecmaine.com/ what's not to like?!? :P Activities, services and amenities to welcome and satisfy business people, vacationing singles, couples and families |
| action | rahul arranges a trip to lubec, maine |
| rahul | arranges a trip to lubec, maine |
| action | Xach reverse psychology: success |
| Xach | reverse psychology: success |
| rahul | heh you won't get rid of me that easily! |
| attila_lendvai | hm, asdf's OPERATE is wrapping basically everything in a big with-compilation-unit, even a TEST-OP. and it locks the *big-compiler-lock* on sbcl wthich basically stops all other threads. because of that i can't start the UCW tests from the test-op... :| |
| rahul | that's not nice |
| attila_lendvai | well, i've removed the w-c-u and then it works |
| kpreid | hm, I'm going to have that problem eventually |
| froydnj | your tests spawn threads? *boggle* |
| kpreid | asdf computes all the leaf operations it's going to perform before performing them, right? how about doing a w-c-u only if (some #'wants-compilation-unit-p operations) froydnj: why boggle? your program has interacting-thread components, you want to test them, no? |
| froydnj | kpreid: I suppose so |
| kpreid | I'm boggled at the notion of *not* testing things just because they involve threads |
| froydnj | I'm boggled at the notion of using threads in the first place :) |
| attila_lendvai | kpreid: sounds good, but i doubt you can get that into asdf... |
| froydnj | why not try to rearrange things so w-c-u only gets invoked on, you know, compile-op? |
| kpreid | froydnj: I assumed the intent was to wrap all compile-ops in the overall operation oh, I see my suggestion won't help if the tests caused the compilation |
| attila_lendvai | froydnj: COMPILE alread wraps w-c-u s/wraps/wraps with/ |
| kpreid | COMPILE doesn't, COMPILE-FILE does |
| attila_lendvai | yep, my bad |
| kpreid | I think the Real Problem here is sbcl's compiler-lock, though I recognize the probable relative difficulty of fixing it :) |
| attila_lendvai | i'm not compiling anything in the tests, but somehow spawning threads or soemthing is locked out |
| froydnj | attila_lendvai: my point is that asdf::operate does w-c-u unconditionally, even for operations that don't need it (e.g. test-op) |