| dwidmann | vecina: It's really not going to be all that different |
| ubotu | infanta: Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php |
| tin | what do you mean edgy's packages are deprecated? |
| dwidmann | Kubuntu is *heavily* based on Debian |
| vecina | dwidmann: I guess... i wish there was another solution |
| ubotu | Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt) - Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html Sorry, I don't know anything about bitorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi |
| Jucato | vecina: since you've been asking already, I think it wouldn't hurt if you asked in #ubuntu-devel (not really sure how they'll take it though.. might forward you to #ubuntu ) |
| tin | i installed ubuntu edgy a couple days ago and it got all the updates |
| stdin | ooh it's awake |
| tin | before i did the system upgrade to feisty |
| jjj__ | whats the advantage of debian over gentoo and fedora and others? |
| vecina | tin: for example, edgy's Blender package is one version old |
| jjj__ | :-) |
| vecina | Jucato: #ubuntu-devel? |
| Jucato | vecina: you have to take release schedules into account vecina: or #ubuntu take your pick |
| tin | vecina: do you NEED blender 2.43 instead of 2.42? |
| Jucato | dwidmann: it's not that *heavily* based on Debian though... |
| tin | if so, just get it from blender3d.org |
| vecina | tin: I like the sculpting tool. Plus you need the new version of Wesnoth to play it online |
| tin | you could always add fiesty's repos if you needed too i think |
| vecina | tin: Point is, you cant stay up to date without recompiling and such. |
| tin | vecina: stable > up to date |
| dwidmann | Jucato: certainly looks like it is to me |
| Jucato | vecina: though you don't need to compile blender at all |
| vecina | tin: I suppose... :/ |
| tin | my server is running freebsd 5.4 it's not "up to date" per se, but it's bedrock stable |
| dwidmann | same core packages for the most part, debian forces you to for the most part build up from scratch, kubuntu just gives a set of defaults, all of which (give or take) can be found in debian's repos. |
| tin | i even looked up some info on upgrading to 6.x, but decided to wait anyway |
| vecina | i like the simplicity of sudo aptitude install (program), bam, i have the newest version. its even in my start menu all nice and neat |
| tin | FreeBSD joker.tin.hopto.org 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Sun May 8 10:21:06 UTC 2005 i guess non of the security errata affected it, that's the first and only kernel (and world) i've built in two years |
| action | tin double checks the errata |
| tin | double checks the errata vecina: it is, and i'm glad fiesty handles my hardware (almost) perfectly but fiesty IS brandy new |
| vecina | i know :/ but i dont think this problem is normal |
| tin | my only problem is that blender doesn't display correctly |