| DrEeevil | still takes away your control of your computer |
| Monkeh | DrEeevil: Steam doesn't do anything when it's not running. And it's only running when I'm using it. |
| SanityInAnarchy | DrEeevil: That's like saying killing is wrong. Some believe that (quakers), I don't. Killing a child is worse than killing an adult is worse than killing an adult who is trying to kill you. DrEeevil: And, I do not see Steam taking control of ANYTHING except the game. Which would enrage me if there was an alternative. DRM on games doesn't bother me much, because the only real alternative that I'd care about is open sourcing the game. On movies, etc, it does matter, because I can legitimately want to play them on a different player/OS than that particular movie was designed for. |
| Monkeh | I'd very much like all games to be free and open source etc. But then all the competition disappears, along with innovation. Same deal with hardware.. |
| DrEeevil | SanityInAnarchy: still it has the potential for a full takeover, just that valve doesn't use it yet doesn't relax me at all and mind taking this to #gentoo-chat please? |
| igli | yeah and there's no competition in Free software. ciaranm anyone? |
| SanityInAnarchy | sure |
| action | Monkeh is too lazy to join another channel, so he'll just stop talking |
| Monkeh | is too lazy to join another channel, so he'll just stop talking |
| milligan | I've got gentoo installed on a laptop with a docking station. On the docking, Ive connected an LCD screen. Ive got the laptop monitor, and the LCD monitor up and running, but it's cloning the desktop onto the LCD screen, instead of making a second desktop. Ive tried the Xinerama and clone setting in xorg.conf, but they didnt seem to make any difference. Any suggestions to what Ive messed up ? |
| action | strong007 gud pm all :) |
| strong007 | gud pm all :) |
| hkBst | !g dual monitor guide ? dual monitor guide |
| jeeves | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml |
| milligan | Yep, Ive looked at that. nvidia though .. I have *gasp* ati. |
| hkBst | milligan: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors |
| diox | err; you shouldn't link to gentoo-wiki hkBst :) |
| hkBst | diox: why not? |
| diox | it's not supported documentation :) |
| milligan | I'm guessing I might have to set some kind of BusID ? |
| hkBst | as long as it has usefull infos I'll link to it. Wouldn't want to exclude the rest of the non-gentoo net either :P |
| diox | milligan: off course you should hm hkBst : 75% of that site is far outdated |
| milligan | Do I have any way of telling what the ID might be ? |
| diox | milligan: use lspci |
| milligan | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M24 1P [Radeon Mobility X600] ... But I dont have a second card ... I don't know how dockingstations work really .. Im guessing Ill have to set up a dualhead config ? |
| testicle_ | how can you tell which ebuild is marked stable (default to be installed?) without trying emerge -p ? |
| hkBst | testicle_: eix |
| jkeith | I can run Windows XP from within gentoo if I install to /winxp, right? :) |
| Boohbah | no |
| jkeith | why not? |
| remaster | jkeith: do you mean as a virtual machine? |
| jkeith | no, from the file system thingy, native I think they call it |
| remaster | jkeith: ok. jkeith: now stop trolling :P |
| jkeith | oops, busted lol |
| SanityInAnarchy | You'd have to run it in a VM, and write drivers for Windows... |