| abrotman | there's no beryl in debian !beryl |
| rissy | google it, it's just something that allows you to have lot's of fancy things |
| maddash | sissy: use compiz |
| action | Amarande pokes dpkg |
| Amarande | pokes dpkg |
| maddash | rissy: ^^ |
| bzed | Amarande: will be merged with compiz soon, search for compi z |
| rissy | maddash, doesn't compiz come with all those extra fancy things that beryl (same company) has though? |
| maddash | rissy: yeah. it's addicting. |
| rissy | hehe, i don't really like that "3d desktop" or "curled windows" stuff i'm just looking for window border shadows on it's own if there isn't any package that does that, i'll install compiz as my last resort however |
| xq | ladidada |
| maddash | rissy: depends on your wm. |
| rissy | gnome |
| Amarande | is gnome actually a wm? |
| abrotman | sawfish or metacity or something else ? |
| Amarande | what -is- the default wm in gnome, anyway? |
| asg | Amarande: no, but it comes with one |
| abrotman | no .. gnome is not a wm |
| maddash | Amarande: metacity |
| rissy | oh, that's nice to know |
| maddash | all these jiggly windows....makes me want to squeeze and fondle them. |
| Amarande | maddash, you may want to make sure your monitor/video card are ok ;) |
| action | asg prefers his rxvts when they don't jiggle |
| asg | prefers his rxvts when they don't jiggle |
| rissy | what's the difference between a desktop enviroment and window manager than? |
| Amarande | speaking of desktop environments what does the K in K Desktop Environment stand for? |
| asg | rissy: the former usually has integration functionality (i.e., drag-n-drop, interprocess communication plumbing, etc.) Amarande: Klunky |
| action | Amarande has a feeling the answer may be "it stands for K" :| |
| Amarande | has a feeling the answer may be "it stands for K" :| |
| maddash | rissy: DE = WM + {load of crud} |
| rissy | asg, ah okay. communication between the wm and x server or? |
| DocPlatypus | Amarande: it used to stand for "Kool" but now stands just for "K" |
| asg | rissy: you actually don't need a wm at all. You can just start X and an xterm and manage your windows (move/resize) with ALT+Left Button (move), ALT+Right Button (resize) |
| rissy | asg, i'm aware of that |