#debian - Sun 20 May 2007 between 16:43 and 16:50



Caelumshould I put debian on my nuclear submarine?
simonrvnCaelum: depends, is the sub big enough?
Caelumheh
ma3xwols, does it sometimes happen to you?
wolsma3x: deleting important stuff? of course
ma3xwols, what do you do then?
wolsthe answer to that is: if it wasn't backed up on tape or wherever, it couldn't have been important
simonrvnrestore from backups, or shrug and say "oh well"
wolsi curse swear, and flame someone on #debian :P
sTbsome make error on proftpd http://rafb.net/p/MDbV0016.html
ma3xhaha
wols, good!
just make sure it's not simonrvn you flame
simonrvni curse and swear at wols for cursing and swearing at someone on #debian :P
hehehe
EmleyMoorI just had my laptop replaced with an identical (*) one, with my hard disk moved over. Since then, I have been unable to use the network interfaces (wired or wireless) - do I need to check anything general before coming here about the specifics
Caelumspeaking of backups, anyone have suggestions for backing up to a company windows share?
EmleyMoor(*) - it's the self-same model and everything
wolsEmleyMoor: nope. if it's really identical it will work
simonrvnCaelum: tarball it first
EmleyMoorThey work in Windows, but not in Linux at all
Caelumsimonrvn: I was hoping to have an incremental image thingy
wolsEmleyMoor: which means something has changed. e.g. the MAC is certainly not the same between those two notebooks
CaelumEmleyMoor: does ifconfig show them?
wolsEmleyMoor: does ifconfig -a show the interfaces
EmleyMoorThe MACs have indeed changed but surely Linux itself is not MAC locked?
No, it does not
simonrvnCaelum: i highly doubt ntfs or whatever is going to support unix perms and such. i wouldn't trust it
wolsnot of course it isn't
simonrvn: it's not. it has something better :P
Caelumsimonrvn: maybe there's a backup utility that supports image files and can do incremental backups onto them?
DavidProck1981wols: DavidProck1981: with your scheme you need a cache _and_ a ramdisk. doubling the cache ram requirement and starving out the slightly less used files than your chosen list
EmleyMoorI will bring the machine through in a bit and try to work out what's going on
simonrvnCaelum: not in the scope of this channel ;)
DavidProck1981what do you mean by the "starving out" part
simonrvnEmleyMoor: no, it isn't
MAC locked
wolsDavidProck1981: all free RAM is used for disk cache. in since a sizable chunk of your RAM is now a ramdisk you can't use it for cache. which means you have a msaller cache that will fit less files
DavidProck1981: since the most used files always are in the cache, the slightly less used one fall out due to not enough cache RAM
EmleyMoorOK - well, I'll be back in an hour or less and then perhaps someone can guide me as to where the network interfaces went

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