#debian - Fri 18 May 2007 between 13:22 and 13:42

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itchiabrotman: That's still the same user, right?
iKernel(and make damn sure I have nv_pat_disable=1 or x server won't start)
abrotmanitchi: i don't think so
amerejis installing xfce easy on etch ?
abrotmanitchi: different IP
aptitude install xfce x-window-system
amerejreplacing gnome
itchiabrotman: I not more rember the ip :-)
abrotmanitchi: /lastlog root
jellyamerej: just install xfce4
itchiabrotman: Right
jellyabrotman: s/xfce/xfce4/
abrotmanoh yeah ..
amerejis it going to replace gnome or i'll have them both after ?
itchiabrotman: I should more make use of /lastlog :-)
My english sucks today heh :-)
peterSpossie: (sorry for delay, was on the phone.) if you ask my disk for CHS (3253,5,40), it internally converts it to sector 52259800 and handles it, then converts that number back to (3253,5,40). internally, sector 52259800 might mean any address - I don't know how the mapping table inside the disk works in that regard, given variable sectors per track. anyway, that is what I meant.
abrotmanphone ?
itchi: i noticed
possiepeterS, np for the delay, it's really (at least i find it so) interesting information al that low-level stuff :-)
ustunozguramerej: both.
you will select which one in gdm
roland_when i try to kill init (eg. killall init or kill -HUP init) what happens?
liableroland_: the kernel wont let you
Arafangionroland_: Same thing that happens at the end of 'shutdown -h now'
peterSpossie: what's really funny is that modern filesystems are not organised for CHS addresses anyway - the filesystem has its own linear addresses for numbering its blocks. so a legacy OS that uses CHS has to convert its linear filesystem addresses not only into physical LBA addresses, but _then_ convert those into CHS, using exactly the same multiplication/division that the drive will be doing at the other end of the cable. ...
... fortunately, Linux doesn't go through that nonsense (:
jellyroland_: man init
liable: kernel only won't let him SIGKILL it
py_I can I check if a library (or an executable) as been built with debugging symbols included?
leptonI killed process 1 once. the machine rebooted.
peterSpy_: yeah, 'file' will tell you "stripped" or "not stripped"
fakirHi, what is the repository used to install xfce 4.4.1 ?? THX
py_peterS, thanks!
kie27greetings all, having some problems with multisync, i killed the process with ctrl-c and now it wont start up again, just seems to hang, i have treid uninstalling and reinstalling it with apt-get and removing .multisync directory but still no difference, any suggestions please...
peterSpy_: though that doesn't tell you everything: there are things other than debugging symbols which can be stripped / not stripped. so to find out whether debug symbols are present you'd have to use some objdump command - I don't know offhand which one, probably 'objdump -h'
py_: ...yeah, objdump -h lists the section names, and if you have debug info you will have several sections whose names start with ".debug_". if not, you won't.
py_peterS: very nice from you, exactly what I was looking for, and thanks for the background info around :-)
DasKabelG'day
liableg'day knackers

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