#debian - Fri 18 May 2007 between 06:41 and 06:46

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foowols: tried to bring up eth1... what's weird is it changes, literally... from reboot to reboot ... sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I'd at least expect it to be consistent
GigsWhy does the postfix package install inetd? As far as I can see there's nothing postfix related that it starts, just some silly ancient services like "discard" and "time"
foowols: I see. Not too sure about the firewire. Hm, how can I check what kind of motherboard? Probably in lshw. /me checks
peterSGigs: it ... doesn't?
foowols: the system with the problem is still down, btw, waiting for the datacenter to get it back online, but I have another identical system with sarge that is up.
peterSGigs: when I look at the postfix package, it doesn't depend on any form of inetd, I mean
wolsGigs: you probably can run postfix from inetd if you want. configured by dpkg-reconfigure for postfix
foowols: P4M800PRO-M
Gigsnetbase openbsd-inetd postfix
foowols: /me googles
wolsjust like you can run samba this way e.g.
Gigsthat's what apt picked up
peterSGigs: it _does_, however, pull in 'netbase', which happens to pull in inetd. it's an indirect dependency
Gigsmaybe "netbase" requires?
ok
peterSGigs: the reason is historical: netbase historically included an inetd implementation, so if you upgrade netbase it needs to pull in inetd so that old systems don't break. postfix doesn't require this part of netbase
Gigsk, I'll disable it then. Thanks.
roland_peterS: ok so considering my bind configuration is not borked, let me say again my topology: i am connecting to my isp trough a cable modem with a static ip, and that modem is connected to a router (Zioncom ipTIME VE) wich has NAT and dhcp running on it and gives private IP addresses and internet acces to my LAN wich at this moment consists of 2 nodes : a laptop and the server (192.168.0.8) wich runs dns and web now, so i have checked the router and i e
litagehow can one figure out why syslog-ng might have stopped if it wasn't told to stop by a logged-in user?
foowols: heh, $50 ECS motherboard in a production server... *sigh*
roland_and have checked iptables on server, but no rules defined
wolsfoo: lemme guess: you have really cheap hosting?
roland_so there isnt anything obvious that is blocking it
foowols: May I PM you with specifics?
wolsbtw: I totally like my ECS K7S5A mobos here :). and they only costs 35 bucks :)
foo: no
use the channel or a paster
peterSroland_: your network topology is not the problem here: you have already confirmed that 'dig @192.168.0.8 www.assa-electronic.ro' fails locally. the problem is not the router stuff
fooFYI, I have an ECS motherboard... works fine. But this is a production server.
wolsand I know the Pm800 junk from ECS :)
the rpoblem was they used a Via board for anything in the first place
ECS is fine. Via cheap shit is not
roland_its missing the ANSWER section
in dig
foowols: Ok, $200 a month for 10mbit up/down, core2duo E6300, 1GB RAM
owhwols: Can I use the debian netinst cd to recover from my f-up?
foowols: Is that cheap?
peterSwols: I dunno, my via 823x chipset mobo has served me well for the past few years. even the onboard POS audio.
wolsECS is foxconn. foxconn is producing for intel (their mobos)
roland_i have no idea in the world what could cause this thing.. all config is good ...

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