#debian - Fri 18 May 2007 between 02:46 and 02:53

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unlinkwhy would you want to learn C?
zeeblelol
unlinkthey have programming languages now
PepseC is a programming language. Perl is not a programming language.
unlinkjust because the book calls it a programming language doesn't make it useful for programming
xarquidI think I told him to get ANSI C (that's what I learned from)
peterSunlink: the reason to learn C is to be able to contribute to open source software. that was the question here, right? a great deal of free software is in C
xarquidHe already basically knows the web development things, so told him to look for java books to
zeebleProgramming in ANSI C by Kernighan and Ritchie
Pepsezeeble: I think that's the one
xarquidJust wondering if anyone has any specific recommendations they always use or did use to initially learn themselves :)
PepseI learned .NET stuff by reading msdn2.microsoft.com :D
xarquidyep, zeeble, he got that. That's one of my oldies but goodies.
zeebleand then, Expert C programming, Deep C secrets by van den linden
unlinkpeterS: that too
nhuisman_workgl with .net in open source...
zeebleand the standard C library book by plauger
3 books for C
xarquidpeterS: Aye, but I mean -- learning programming in general is good also. So anything of the subject of programing will work fine with him. I just want to broden his knowledge on what he can make his system do for HIM and am not up to date on books
peterS"Deep C Secrets" - why didn't they just call it "Deep C Diving"
xarquidlol
would have been awesome
zeeblehaha. its a good book, fwiw
PepseI would say besides the fact that it's not OOP, C is a good language to get programming experience in
the new languages make you lazy (Java, C#, etc)
peterSxarquid: frankly if you haven't done much programming before, you want to start with perl or python, depending on the preferences of the people around you that you'd be asking questions of
xarquidAye, as well as web languages. While now a days CSS has taken over, it's still good to know a little HTML ;) JavaScript is a must as well for the web. And PHP/ASP etc.
peterS: Familiar with both here, and he'll be asking me
But I know what you mean :)
zeeblexarquid: there's a book called beginning linux programming by neil mathew and stone.. its alright. introduces a few languages, and its followup - advanved linux programming
peterSxarquid: so I'd be looking for books on one of those languages, rather than books on C, at least to start
xarquidAny newish newb Perl or Python books I can make him get? He's using my gift card lol
zeebleumm, learning python from the oreilly books
xarquidI would go for Learning Perl, Fourth Edition but mine is first edition. Not up to date as I said ;)
peterScan't go wrong with "Learning Perl" if you need to start slow, or "Programming Perl" if you think you can take it heavier
xarquidAh, so OReily still tops the shelves?
zeeblewhat do you think he will do with perl?
xarquidAnything he can come up with :)
zeebleok
peterSyes, O'Reilly retains their reputation for useful books (:

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