#debian - Mon 30 Apr 2007 between 21:10 and 21:15

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rahuldondelelcaro: well, practically anything else
dondelelcaroif you're in a position where the performance loss matters, then you should be using something else
Studiosusgravity: thx =)
gravityStudiosus: You can usually search the Debian wiki for the team-specific information
cafuegorahul: TO me, having an undocumented readable format is a much better idea than an undocumented binary format.
rahuldondelelcaro: ASN.1 being the most general, but EDI is actually decent
Enverex|LTThat channel is dead as always. So, back to the question about what could be wrong with the sound card...
rahulcafuego: an undocumented binary format is a pain to write a parser for, so people don't do that
cafuego: at least people with any desire to maintain sanity :)
dondelelcaro: of course.
cafuegorahul: I think you'll find epople kinda did, like the MS Office support for OOo/abiword/gnumeric ;-)
xingurahul: so why are there so many undocumented xml binary formats. :)
dutchfishrahul, is there a good xml parsor usable in gnoom?
rahulgnoom?
dutchfish: I don't deal with xml parsers
dutchfishrahul, gnome*
dondelelcarodutchfish: gnome is a UI; it has little need for an XML parser
DawnLightis there airodump in the repos?
rahulI let the XML people screw with XML
Enverex|LTThe drivers are loaded for my soundcard but for some reason when I try and use alsamixer I get "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device". Any idea why this would happen? I can't figure it out.
rahuldondelelcaro: er... glade?
cafuegodondelelcaro: Did anyone inform the glade devs? ;-)
rahulcafuego: heh, they forgot to read that memo
TimRaineyIs there a directory of all the things I can install using apt-get?
dondelelcarocafuego: glade isn't; it uses libxml2 to do that
rahulxingu: pseudo-xml is truely irritating.
dutchfishTimRainey, aptitude?
xingurahul: s/pseudo-//
rahuldondelelcaro: right, they didn't right their own
cafuegodondelelcaro: Which would be the xml parser sued by gnome, right? ;-)
rahulxingu: nah, real XML _can_ be dealt with, theoretically
dondelelcarocafuego: sure; My point was that there wasn't a gnome specific XML parser
xingurahul: real xml still requires you to wait for a close mark before processing the tag.
dondelelcarocafuego: or a need for some sort of XML UI
rahulxingu: not necessarily
xingurahul: this is a *crippling* feature
cafuegodondelelcaro: There will be, once the in-kenrel XML parser is done and we fork both Gnome and KDE versions.
rahulxingu: you just need lazy parsing
dondelelcarocafuego: heh
xingurahul: last I looked nobody was increasing the speed of light or reducing the distance between continents

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