#debian - Tue 20 Feb 2007 between 12:32 and 12:37

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bwlangGutterPunk: if you're going to use lvm then you'll probably want just one partition for lv physical volumne and lv's for / /home (and maybe /var)
rahulvaldyn: xfs recently added a write barrier
justinputting / in lvm is tricky
bwlangrahul: false... i boot xfs all the time.
jellyvaldyn: I'm more worried about metadata and losing files which weren't written to at the time of outage
rahulwaits for data to be written before it returns
justinmuch easier to just make a 5G / and keep it simple
bwlangjustin: not with the new installers... they do it for you
rahulbwlang: with a bootloader in the superblock of xfs partition?
stewjustin: not really tricky, you just have to use an initrd
bwlangrahul: false again - xfs can be configured to write quickly (i use it on my laptop)
justinstew: yes, until something goes wrong, and you have to figure out how to boot from it
valdynjelly: that's beyond what a fs can do ( unless you seriously fuck performance )
rahuljelly: there's a whole section of the FAQ addressing varying options for that
bwlangrahul: i use xfs with grub.... no problems
rahulbwlang: you need to learn how to read.
mindframehow do i access iceweasel's config?
jetscreamermindframe: about:config
rahulbwlang: I use xfs with grub, too.
noctihello, what pkg do i need to have X sources for sarge? so i can compile mplayer with gui option. thanks.
jetscreamerin the addy bar
rahulbwlang: that doesn't mean I have grub in the xfs superblock.
bwlang: do you?
jetscreamer!start an fs war
dpkgUDF uses too much overhead!
bwlangjelly: no problems with power loss... you will get some corrupted files but it's obvious which ones fail.
rahulyou don't need to get corrupted files...
it's in the FAQ.
jellybwlang: that's acceptable... and unavoidable probably
bwlangrahul: i use the mbr, not the superblock
stewnocti: http://packages.debian.org/src:mplayer will tell you the build-deps
noctithanks stew
rahulbwlang: so what exactly did I say that you are disagreeing with?
stewnocti: though, id recommend looking for a backport on bpo: /msg dpkg bpo
bwlangjelly: yeah - if it's in the middle of a write you don't get a junk write - you just get a file fulls of <null>
valdynrahul: fs can only cover what harddisk supports. If it some ugly gradual power loss your disk writes to adjacent sectors, there's nothing any of the standard fs can do
rahul: not sure how likely that is..
rahulvaldyn: well, that's hardware failure, yeah
valdynrahul: yep
noctistew, ah yes backports how did i ever forget that. thanks!

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