#debian - Tue 20 Feb 2007 between 12:27 and 12:31

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tarzeaujetscreamer: yuck :)
justinGutterPunk: definitely look at lvm though
znhjelly, I should investigate what this is. thank you for the summary
bwlangGutterPunk: i also put /var in it's own md (especially for a system that handles mail)
jetscreamertarzeau: the fonts were too small in xterm :/
GutterPunkjustin, why would I want lvm if I have raid? Other then adding extra drives later on?
sohmestraGutterPunk: you can resize LVM partitions, move them, etc.
jellyznh: for now, we use Grsecurity which require little changes to the OS (basically, rebuilding the kernel) but provides some nice security enhancements. It's very useful in multiuser environment (think shared web hosting)
GutterPunkbwlang, so it's best to configure a swap file on the / md?
bwlangGutterPunk: I second the LVM recommendation... it's valuable because sometimes you don't know ahead of time which partitions will use what space
justinGutterPunk: if one huge storage partition is fine, you don't need lvm
bwlangGutterPunk: dunno about best... but it's simple
sohmestraGutterPunk: do lvm snapshots when backing up, and more.
GutterPunkWell I need all the space for storage
but I'd like to seperate it from the / device... don't know whatfor really...
bwlangGutterPunk: it's about the distribution of space... lets say you allocate 6G to / and 80G to /home... but later you find out that you need another gig in / - with lvm it's easy to just leave some space unallocated and put it where it's needed
actionjelly wonders how stable lvm is
jellywonders how stable lvm is
creatureI don't trust lvm any more.
Definitely not on a non-RAID system.
bwlangjelly: it's stable - i've run it for years with no trouble
creatureIf you use it to span multiple drives on a non-raid system, and one of your disks fails, you lose everything.
jellybwlang: I've run reiserfs v3 for years with no trouble! :-)
justincreature: that is basically raid 0
valdyncreature: who on his right mind would do that?
creatureWhich doesn't mean it's useless, just not suitable to my current system.
GutterPunkbwlang, so I create 2 md devices, make them both part of lvm, and then create a / and a /storage in this lvm?
valdyncreature: just because lvm _can_ do that, doesn't mean anyone should
bwlangjelly: i used to run reiserfs... but it ate my data once... now i use xfs mostly
justinGutterPunk: no, create 1 md device for /, create another md device for lvm
actionjetscreamer chose jfs
jetscreamerchose jfs
jellybwlang: how does xfs fare with power loss?
mindframeanyone have some recommended memory / bandwidth tweaks for iceweasel?
rahuljelly: well.
GutterPunkjustin, ah I see
jetscreamerxfs has a grub problem when grub is on the xfs partitionbtw
rahuljelly: even better now that it did before
jetscreamerjelly it works great if you have a ups i hear
valdynjelly: all fs but ext3 in ordered data mode may fuck your data on power loss
stewi was happy i was using lvm when my hard drive started failing, and I could replace it very quickly using pvmove
rahulxfs is not a PC filesystem, so you can't put a bootloader in the superblock

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