#centos - Mon 9 Apr 2007 between 13:39 and 13:55

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pthagonalbrad: have a look at http://linux.dell.com/ (which is v slow for me at the mo) - maybe try on one of their linux mailing lists?
zafoh, sweet, dell has their own yum repo
AgentBlueUK2Anyone know if it would be ok to install the beta on a system that's due for production in 2 weeks time ?
rylin_AgentBlueUK2: that would depend on what your employer says, obviously
zafAgentBlueUK2, why not wait for the full release some time in the next 24 hours (probably)
AgentBlueUK2i've already built the boxes ;-)
ZathrusAgentBlueUK2: given that there are known security issues in the beta and there's no supported method to upgrade from the beta to release --- I certainly wouldn't.
AgentBlueUK2just wondering if i really do need to wipe clean and build again
rylin_yes
AgentBlueUK2i'm used to 'unsupported' upgrades
i 'upgraded' a machine from fedora to centos while it was running
actionEvolution vomits a little
Evolutionvomits a little
actionZathrus hits Evolution with a rolled up newspaper and makes him clean it up.
Zathrushits Evolution with a rolled up newspaper and makes him clean it up.
zafit's ok, he'll eat it in a minute
Zathruszaf: one of my cats does that to another cat...
AgentBlueUK2it served it's purpose, it gave me time to wait for centos 5 to be relased (it was FC3)
ZathrusAgentBlueUK2: it's up to you. I stand by my statement though. Why put yourself through needless headaches?
AgentBlueUK2i would never do it for a proper box i hasten to add, but fine for my box in my flat
Zathrusyou just said it was going into production in two weeks.
rylin_Zathrus: shhhh, it's more fun to watch him squirm :P
AgentBlueUK2setting up an active/active server cluster of vmware+mysql using drdb+heartbeat is a little more work that just a stock EL5 install
FC3 -> EL4 is test box, EL5Beta -> EL5 (final) would be test->production
actionrylin_ gazes longingly at the -mirror list
rylin_gazes longingly at the -mirror list
ZathrusAgentBlueUK2: again, you have no way of knowing what issues may occur from doing an upgrade like that, long term. And you want to do this for a production box?
actionzaf thinks apparently some people have different definitions of works like "production", "testing", and "job security"
zafthinks apparently some people have different definitions of works like "production", "testing", and "job security"
er, words
AgentBlueUK2it's a minimal install of centos, so the risks are very low
cluster-awareNot to mention using the cluster suite from upstream.
Yuck
ZathrusAgentBlueUK2: given the number of "minor" packages (like kernel, udev, dbus, etc) that changed between beta and final, I don't consider it a low risk.
zafstill silly to be considering installing software that's going to be woefully obsolete within a few hours
AgentBlueUK2if you are replacing all the rpms with the final release, then the only risk is that config files that are created on the fly as part of the centos install contain invalid values
DJTreyi'm installing cent os with the one server cd. is gnome included with it?
AgentBlueUK2it was installed about a week ago
Zathrusno.
ArrfabDJTrey : no,
cluster-awareDoesn't rpm create all those stupid .rpmsave files though?
DJTreyhmm, ok
AgentBlueUK2only if you have changed the files
Zathruswhy do you need a GUI on a server?

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